And no Liverpool fans, this isn't a wind-up. Ultima Distinguished Member. Yes he does deserve it. The man is a legend and should be recognised for what he achieved. Steven Senior Moderator. If I toe the line that the spectrum for getting recognised by Her Maj or rather the PM looking for good PR has vastly widened since say 60 years ago, then perhaps Paisley should be rewarded for his achievements Liverpool fans: please read my post properly before commenting. Silver Arrow Active Member.
Liverpool fan - yes, but football fan first. Of course he should be given an honour. Click to expand You must log in or register to reply here. Similar threads B. Bruins-Canucks Game 7: Seven keys, stats and players to watch.
Benson Jun 15, Sport. Replies 0 Views 1K. Jun 15, Benson DrPhil Feb 22, Sport 38 39 There have been very few Liverpool members who have been acknowledged by the government for their hard work. Yet, one of the individuals they failed to recognise is Bob Paisley. I was wondering that too the other day, particularly after the legacy he built into our club.
Paisley was one of the greatest managers in the world. The Englishman had won 20 trophies within nine seasons, including six League Championships and one Super Cup. Not only did also help Liverpool win three European Cups, but he was the first manager in the world to do so an honour beheld by Zidane and Ancelotti since.
However, it is baffling that Sir Alex Ferguson and Sir Bobby Charlton were awarded knighthoods because of their contributions to football broke club and history records.
Is Paisley the greatest-ever manager then? It would be churlish to make such a call. Whilst it is easy to list those who deserve a seat at the very top of game's managerial history books, setting down an order of greatness would be inappropriate. The "greatest ever" is entirely dependent on a subjective perspective and the personal bias of the judge, often overlooking the distinct context and circumstances of each candidate's achievements.
Indeed, many view Shankly as the greatest Liverpool manager ever due to the transformative work he did in turning Liverpool from a second-division team into what would become an unstoppable force across every competition. Similarly, Sir Matt Busby is often regarded the greater knight of the realm at Old Trafford again due to the foundations he laid down for the future, the philosophies he instilled upon Manchester United and, of course, his rebuilding of the club after brutal tragedy. Are trophies even truly relevant to argument of "greatest-ever manager"?
If it weren't for Barcelona, Sir Alex Ferguson would arguably have won at least one other Champions League trophy over the last three years. Conversely, there are many coaches who, whilst not amassing a haul as impressive as Fergie or Paisely's, have left indelible marks upon the game of football itself be it tactically, in terms of training regimes, nutrition and professionalism and even the philosophy of how we play the game.
Returning to the initial argument, and besides the technicality that the deceased cannot be knighted, there exists one major argument against honouring Liverpool's legendary boss as Sir Bob Paisley: Would he have even wanted such an honour?
Sir Alex Ferguson's knighthood is seen by some as a political move by the Labour government that was in power at the time. It would have made sense as a move to look relevant and on-trend by extending their "cool Britannia" PR tactics onto arguably the most popularly supported club in the country.
It was perhaps an institutionalisation of the game that even United fans should be suspicious of to some degree. As Sartre said as he rejected the Nobel prize: "A man must refuse to allow himself to be transformed into an institution, even if it takes place in the most honourable form. The institution Bob Paisley cared about most was Liverpool Football Club—its people, traditions, identity, myths, legends and the nigh-religious secular faith of its supporters.
To rival fans and neutrals alike Liverpool fans are often a highly enjoyable source of entertainment due to their past glory-fuelled delusions its their year, every year and embellished outbursts, but their sense of community is admirable. Shankly, Liverpool's grand architect, was also an outspoken socialist and his principles still echo through much of the club's fanbase today.
Do they really want one of their great heroes of the people intrinsically linked to an aristocratic order of class-based merit? Paisley was, by all accounts, an incredibly modest and quiet man.
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